Ian: until last week there were still telling us that we needed to drink 8 glasses of water every day and most people who drink 8 glasses but do it right out of the tap.
Paul : the CDC looks as if the y are taking responsibility know , the CDC simply [remotes fluoridation so the ex-communities are trapped into thinking that this whole medical establishment is accepting responsibility for fluoridation as being safe but there is nobody actually inching of this program . when it comes down to the toxicity of the chemical that are used this sis in the hand of a private body called the National Sanitation Foundation and they have a disclaimer that they are not responsible for their recommendations and when they are asked for toxicology studies on the chemical used they refuse to give them
Ian: if this is a drug ,if it’s an additive then tits drug , if they are draining hat they put it in there to prevent something from happening to your body then it’s a drug but the FDA has north approved it as a drug . They are insisting that we put an unapproved drug in our bodies and they are doing it some sanitation committee department?
Paul: That’s right which has the industry on opts boaDr. The guys that produce this stuff are on the board of thesis NFS. Let’s see what it means to be unapproved drug , it means that it hasn’t gone through the randomized clinical trials to demonstrate effectiveness , it hasn’t gone through the same trials for safety and they are not monitoring side effects. if a drug goose out in the market then both doctors and patients who find side effects get that information to the FDA and when the FDA have accumulated enough complaints of side effects then they determine whether the drug should be removed. none of that ids happening with fluoridation , they alter onto tracking exposure, they are not looking at fluoride levels in our urine , in our blood, in our bones, in a systematic way , doctors arte not trained to look at side effects and we are not doing the studies and we are not attempting to reproduce the studies that arte going on that are going on right now in India and china which have actually produced a <inaudible> of problems for people that swallow fluoride in naturally high communities and not that high incidentally ; damage to the bone , damage to the brain , damage to the endocrine system , this is being documented elsewhere but we are not f doing the obvious studies in this country or any other fluoridated countries and they are basically what you are looking at there. If you don’t look you don’t find, the absence of studies does not mean the absence of harm. You get this <inaudible> result for example i was in Dryden Ontario in April of 2008 and Dryden was considering if the y were going to stop fluoridation and eventually they did , they voted them out but the chief dental officer for Canada when to that community and in his talk he said i walk down you r high streets this afternoon and i didn’t see anybody growing horns and you have been fluoridated for 40 years . He actually seriously offered this as evidence that fluoridation causes no harm, he diet see anybody growing horns. This is sheer lunacy.
Ian: I’m going to pull up something i found on an FDA site in just a second but I’ll parallel something else. Charlie Sheen’s ex-wife a woman name Brooke Molar has a drug problem and she and a story i read earlier this week she was trying to go to Mexico to be treated by a FDA unapproved drug but they don’t sell it i, it’s not allowed , its illegal in the united states called Imogene and so hose clinics that are set up to give drug addicts or people who have chemical depended issues Imogene which apparently disrupts their body an addiction processes and makes it easier to give up drugs . if you take this drug to break up the other drugs then the FDA won’t approve it and it thought it was so interesting that there are certain drugs that the FDA says no and it’s not arrived it can’t in any way be sold or marketed in the united states as a drug. i go to the FDA site from a year ago and they have here ,I’m going to read it right h here maybe h you already know abbot this . It says “the FDA orders a halt to the marketing of unapproved single ingredient oral cortisone. “this is a drug commonly used to prevent gout, to treat gout flares, to treated m a couple of other things but mostly it’s for gout and so they go out of their way to say if we don’t approve it you can’t sell it , you can’t market it until we say you can but except for fluoride . Other people coming on are saying we have a product, we would like to try it out over the next 40 years on the American people and see if it works they would say obsoletely not to expect for fluoride.
Paul: fluoride is the exception for any rule on pollutants or drugs that you can think of , it’s a protected pollutant when the US public health services endorsed fluoridation in 1950 it established such a powerful vale of protection in on this practise which stood a rational discussion , rational argumentation , scientific evidence , everything falls by the wayside in order to protect this practise and yes i think the FDA role in this is despicable , its total hypocrisy to ban some useful things and now foxing overboard in trying to regulate nutrients and so on which they are doing and at the same time allow those fluoride , this unapproved drug to go into the drinking water of over a hundred million Americans every day with no supervision , no study , no randomized clinical trials and ye to look at the back of your tube of tooth paste because that is the FDA in action on fluoride but only on the cosmetic because they regulate cosmetic as well as food and drug . then you see what they should be doing with water but they have been kept away by the US Public Health Service, the great big bus , the department of health and human services have kept the FSDA away from doing these job on this issue .
Ian: very interesting in the case against fluoride and how hazardous waste ended up in our drinking water and the bad science and powerful politics that keep it there. Who are the politicians for and against it, do you have anybody that have come out for you? Do you have a national <inaudible> persons politically?
Paul: in fact you can find a lot about this there is so much to talk about this on this front. If you got to our web page fluoridealert.org you go to web page and at the top of the web page it tells you the recent communities stop fluoridation and links to all the 200 communities that have stopped since 1990. it gives details about how to order out book , it gives more information on all those IQ studies , it gives the professional statement against fluoridation signed by over 3700 medical scientific in environmental professional nitrifies. if you keep scrolling down you eventually comes down to a statement by Ralph Nature and if you keep going down you will faint the professional perspective from water fluoridation , 28 minutes, 15 scientist and if that doesn’t convince you to stop then i don’t know what will but perhaps the book will .
Ian: who are the politicians because i know Ralph Nator you mentioned but like i said my grandmother who was John Birch society all the way she would have hated the fact …
Paul: i f this is essential a political we have people on the right, on the left , the centre run poor announced that he became persistent how would have not fund the CDC to promote fluoridation , he think it should be a local decision not a federal imposition . we have the reverend Andre Young , former ambassador to the UN, former mayor of Atlanta that worked with martin Luther king jar and we have DR. Martin Luther king’s daughter Venice and his niece has come out against fluoridation . they are practically concerned in Georgia because they have mandatory fluoridation , they are strictly concerned in Atlanta because they see the CDC is not warning the family of colours , they are particularly susceptible to fluoride at least as far as dental fluorosis is concerned. I think reverend Andre young is very important because his father was a dentist and for a long time he supported fluoridation. Things change, science develop, we have more information today than we did 60 years ago and we have to patty attention to that. the mayor of Peter Value JR , well known counsellor of new your city whose father was very famous in new York city he has introduced a bill in new York city to stop fluoridation . If you live in New York City and you are listening to tis contact Peter Valona Jar or contact your conceal person and ask them to support Peter Valona JR.
Ian: i assume when you mentioned Martin Luther King jar before you meant martin Luther king the third? Or did you mean MLK was interested in the fluoride issue themself.
Paul: not the American hero that got assonated.
Ian: ok. internationally , it thought this was an interesting quote this is on the back of the book The Case Against Fluoride and sweeten rejected fluoridation in the 1970s these three scattiest have confirmed the wisdom of that decision . Our children have not suffered greater tooth decay as World Heath o Organization figures has test and in turn our children our citizens have no tot borne the other j hazards that fluoride may cause. we do have whole countries where there are healthy people that we can use as test subjects and you can compare and contrasts and we can say this western nation didn’t do fluoride and their teeth and their kids and everybody else . By comparison to ours. are there any cases e where you can make the argument that they didn’t put fluoride in the water and they are countries that do have tragic teeth problems because of that . Are there any examples?
Paul: no. you can’t point, you can have perfectly good teeth with ought fluoride you don’t have to swallow fluoride that is very clear. There’s a much stronger relationship between income levels and tooth decay than you are ever going to find between tooth decay and fluoride. The whole thing is just been badly studies scientifically, no randomized clinical trials for example. there was a study recently done financed by the US government published in 2009 where they actually looked at tooth decay as a function of how much fluoride the kids swallow. they got a bunch of kids, they calculated how much flu rode the kids actually ingested from all sources in the toothpaste, pesticide residue , water and so on and found that there was no relationship between how much fluoride the kids have swallowed and tooth decay and again it comes back to the reason that fluoridation should have stopped was when they’d found out that fluoride major benefit if there’s any is topical , it works on the outside of the tooth and not from swallowing it .
Ian : there are people who have obviously been promoting this and other politicians that are part of this dental industry that are out there trying to protect it through legislation , have you noticed ? Are there senators or congressmen who arte former dentist? Are they trying to? are they moving the needle in favour of fluoridation on anything that we can resist and we can write our congressman or senators about to object to ?
Paul: it is very difficult to function at the state and federal level because the American dental association erases over 100 million dollars per year , i think they maintain something like 20 bias in Washington DC ` and our biggest concern is the amount of federal money that is being capped off to promote fluoridation and the CDC dollars . on the one hand you have the ADA sending money on public violation outfits working behind the scenes , lobbying state legislators , they have a real big effort at the moment to try to introduce mandatory fluoridation . A couple of years ago they introduced mandatory fluoridation in Louisiana.
Ian: did they pass?
Paul: yes. Also in Arkansas they are trying in Pennsylvania, they try every two years n Aragon. In many off these states its being resisted but they are having more success recently because they’ve got a strategy where the public doesn’t find out until they are ready to vote in the state legislate, theta what happen in Louisiana. No one knew about it. Even labia’s for the environmental movement did not know that fluoridation was going through by itself in the legislation.
Ian: we’re going to open up the phones and we will take calls for Dr. Paul Connett the Case against Fluoride next on Coast to Coast.
